i am head over heels in love with a man who was raised jw.
i believe he is fighting demons, however, and is torn between what his heart wants to do, his beliefs, his depression & lack of self confidence.
he has had 2 wives.
A very simple answer to a very difficult question.
I think Erhart Tolle said it perfectly. There is only 3 ways most people handle any situation
!. They complain about it, this is what most people do.
2. Accept the situation completely knowing that things will probably not change.
3. Reject it completely.
Of course all three choices has it's problems.
the apostate that hung around bethel back in the early 1970's.. i talk about "the frog" and "lady margret" in my book but knew nothing about "mr. coffee".
any help please.
new boy.
The apostate that hung around Bethel back in the early 1970's.
I talk about "The Frog" and "Lady Margret" in my book but knew nothing about "Mr. Coffee"
Any help please.
New Boy
i’m fairly new so i don’t know everyone’s backstory.
how did you realize the organization was false?.
50 years of bull shit...most of that time I couldn't believe it was bull shit.
It was a thousand things....finally the stink was so bad that I had to smell it.
However the biggest reason was the lack of any real love! I found out about that at the world headquarter....Bethel. The problems in the organization started at the very top.
i thought this was pretty funny but also so sad it's so true.... how do the witnesses stack up against the mob?.
https://youtu.be/5tdzoyiivsm.
Plus once you join you can never leave just like the mafia.
i've been trying to learn more about how scientology works in regard to how they investigate, interrogate, and discipline their members, and how similar their methods are to jehovah's witnesses.
i am currently pimo, and while i have never faced a judicial committee, the elders have tried to investigate me.
i won't go into detail, but basically it was just a case of me not wanting to reach out like they wanted me to.
"Just till us the Zee truth and nothing will happen to you!"
"We are your friends an just want to help you"
Seig Heil!
i'm not sure how many in the organization is like this, but there some jws who love seeing others get disfellowshipped, and my father-in-law is one of those.
he became a jw because he loved the idea of being the head of the household, and lording it over his family.
as a jw he is very hypocritical, my husband would tell stories of how they would celebrate christmas until his mother-in-law called him on it.
The simple answer to that question is this.
Jehovah's Witnesses by in large want mercy for themselves and justice for everyone else!
additionally - if this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.
csa-arc / un membership / malawi - mexico contrast / etc.).
would those leaving be higher?.
It's a wonderful question for sure!
Of course all the PIMOs would be gone immediately.
Sadly it has taken over 150 years for this beast to be created and it will probably take that much time for it to pass into oblivion.
to be a publisher?.
an auxiliary pioneer?.
an regular pioneer?.
To be a publisher?
An auxiliary Pioneer?
An regular Pioneer?
I already know it takes 13,880 hours of field service to make one new convert.
question: have any of you that are now exjws had a parent leave the religion before you, and you shunned them because of that?
if so—and while you were still in the cult—what, if anything, could your parent have done to reach your heart and begin a reconciliation?
it’s been almost ten years since i left the religion and my two sons continue to shun me and rebuff all efforts i make to reconcile.
I like what Slimboyfat said.
"The only thing I can think might work at this point is to stop trying."
I agree it's called the "reverse shun" talk to them one last time and basically tell them them this.
"I love you guys more than life itself and I'm and always will be your Father and will always be here for you. I love you unconditionally which is something your church doesn't believe in. When you realize what unconditional love is and get your head out of your ass please come and talk to me. Until you can do that we have nothing more to say."
P.S. I was once where you are now and I wish my father had spoken these words to me.
You can't act like you did something wrong.
how can the watchtower society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?
congregations.
119,954. members.
For the year of 2017 it was an average of 13,880 of preaching work for one new convert.
What could throw this statistic off however is the fact that vast majority of people who are getting baptized now are "born ins."
So who knows, it could take as much as 100,000 of preaching to get one new "non born in" into the church.
